Deploy test site / deploy (push) Successful in 1m4s
The artist sets only the fan price; the number of fans needed follows from
it: the plant's 100-copy minimum, or the break-even if that is higher. The
goal selector of 6a62505 is removed from both demos.
make-a-record.html:
- step 4 leads with "Your price to fans" (input, slider from 300 THB,
presets 800 to 2,000) and a live "You need N fans to press it, X THB in
pre-orders", plus the price below which the minimum no longer covers
the costs (about 640 THB at the defaults)
- limited edition is now a switch, off by default; the edition size stays
visible but disabled until it is on, and switching it on adds the
numbered edition to the record
- "per title" renamed for end users: "One-off, for this release", "once +
per copy", "One-off setup", with a note that one-off costs count sides,
not songs (a double LP has four)
- the tour lowers the price to 500 THB and back to show the fans needed
rising from 100 to 152
artist-order.html: goal field removed, "Fans needed" label and hint.
artist-platform.md: the price-sets-the-goal decision (October 2026).
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# Artist Platform: Upload, Price Calculator and Fan-Funded Pressing
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A web platform where anyone who wants records made, from a bedroom
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artist to a label, can:
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1. **Configure a record in a calculator** and get a transparent,
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itemised offer: what every line costs, which costs are per title and
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which per copy, how the price per copy falls with quantity, and when
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it ships.
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2. **Upload the master and the artwork**, and have both checked before
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anyone pays for anything.
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3. **Either order directly**, as any label would, **or launch a
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fan-funded campaign**: a page the artist shares with fans, who
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pre-order their copy. If enough fans commit before the deadline, the
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plant presses and ships each fan's copy. If not, every fan is
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refunded and nobody is left with a garage full of records.
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The calculator is for every customer. The campaign is the part that
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opens vinyl to artists who could never front the cost of a run. Both sit
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on top of what the plan already has: the stages and the three artist
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gates in [process flow](process-flow.md), the lead times in
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[production timeline](production-timeline.md), the order intake, client
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vault and customer portal in [digital factory](digital-factory.md), and
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the dropshipping already in the fulfillment step. Every figure on this
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page without a source is an estimate.
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**Demo.** The [artist ordering demo](artist-order.html) (test site
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`/demos/artist-order/`) walks this whole flow on one static page:
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configure a record, type the track list or drop the master files and
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artwork (read in the browser and never uploaded: format, sample rate, bit
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depth, sample peak and clipping, side length against the format, print
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resolution and colour space), approve gate 1, get the itemised offer with
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its price curve and lead time, then order directly or set up a campaign
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and run it to a funded or a missed end, with the production steps and the
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three gates after it. Its price list (version `demo-0.1`) splits the
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illustration rates below into lines; every split is an estimate and the
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page lists each rate with its basis.
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**Investor demo.** [Make a record](make-a-record.html) (test site
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`/demos/make-a-record/`) is the same flow as a customer would see it,
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built for presenting: a to-scale mock-up with a record that spins at the
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chosen speed, the checks in plain words, one price with the itemised
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lines folded under it, the fan campaign on a phone, the production
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timeline, and a **record passport** for one delivered copy (stamper,
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press, cycle time and side, per [traceability](traceability.md) and
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[quality automation](quality-automation.md)). An "Investor notes" switch
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adds the business case to each step, sourced from this page, the
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[revenue model](finance/revenue-model.md) and the
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[production timeline](production-timeline.md); a guided tour (`#tour`
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after the URL, `#notes` for the notes) walks the whole flow in about a
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minute. It uses the same price list and stage table as the detailed
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demo, so a rate change goes into both pages.
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## Why it fits this plant
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- **The bottom of the Thai market is unserved.** The one Thai plant we
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have seen quotes a 150-unit minimum that is "rarely accepted because
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the cost is way too high", so runs under 300 are effectively
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unavailable ([revenue model](finance/revenue-model.md)). The reason is
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a per-title cost (imported stampers, outsourced cutting) that does not
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shrink with the run. In-house cutting and plating collapses it, which
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makes short runs viable for CNX in a way they are not for an importer
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of metalwork. Short runs need a channel; this is it.
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- **Fan funding removes the artist's risk.** What stops an indie artist
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ordering 200 records is not the price per copy, it is paying for all
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200 up front without knowing whether they sell. A campaign turns that
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around: the fans pay first, the run is exactly as big as the demand.
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- **CNX owns the presses.** The known platforms of this kind are brokers
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over a network of other people's plants. A plant-owned platform
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controls its own price, schedule and quality, and keeps the margin on
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manufacturing instead of a commission.
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- **Transparency is already the brand.** The plan is built on
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traceability that customers can see. The same event log can tell a fan
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"cut on 12 March, plated, test pressing approved by the artist,
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pressing now, ships next week", automatically and truthfully.
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## Who else does this, and the lesson
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| | Model | Notes |
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| **Qrates** (Japan, global) | Crowdfunding plus pressing through partner plants, with a profit calculator for the artist | Its site carries a notice (October 2026) that the service is suspended "due to unforeseen financial difficulties"; artists report funded projects caught in the wind-down |
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| **Diggers Factory** (France) | Upload tracks and artwork, set a sales goal; if missed, the project is cancelled and everyone refunded, or the artist funds the rest; about 8 weeks of manufacturing after success (2023 description); also sells direct pressing paid up front | An on-demand network rather than a single plant |
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| **elasticStage** (UK) | Each record made when it is ordered, no minimum, no campaign | Its own on-demand production technology; a different answer to the same problem |
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**The Qrates lesson is the design rule for the money**: fan payments are
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held apart from the company's own money and are never working capital,
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so that if anything goes wrong, fans can be refunded and artists keep
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their projects. See "Payments" below.
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## The calculator
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### What the customer chooses
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| Choice | Options |
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| Format | 12" LP, 10", 7"; single or double disc; 33⅓ or 45 rpm |
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| Weight | 140 g, 180 g |
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| Colour | Black, solid colour, marbled or splatter (the semi-automatic line's speciality) |
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| Quantity | Free entry, with the price-per-copy curve shown live |
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| Labels | Printed, pressed into the record (the only kind this plant makes) |
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| Inner sleeve | Paper, poly-lined |
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| Jacket | None (customer supplies), plain, printed single, printed gatefold; printed by the local packaging partner |
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| Extras | Insert, hype sticker, shrink wrap, numbered edition |
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| Audio services | Customer supplies a vinyl-ready master, or CNX vinyl mastering per side |
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| Metal | Lacquer cutting and stampers (in-house; bridge stampers from Stamper Discs until the galvanics line exists) |
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| Test pressings | Number of copies for the artist |
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| Delivery | Bulk to one address, dropship to each buyer, or collect at the plant |
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### What the customer gets back
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- **Every line itemised**, grouped into **per title** (mastering,
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cutting, stampers, test pressings, setup) and **per copy** (pressing,
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labels, sleeve, jacket, extras), with pass-through items such as the
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printed jacket marked as such.
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- **The price per copy against quantity** as a curve, so it is obvious
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why 100 copies cost more each than 500, and where the steps are.
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- **A lead time in weeks** from the quote table in
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[production timeline](production-timeline.md): counted from
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test-pressing approval, with the stages before it shown separately as
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"typically X weeks, subject to your approvals", exactly as that page
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says a quote should be made.
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- **An offer** with a validity date and the price-list version it was
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computed from.
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### How it computes
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Price = sum of the per-title lines + quantity × sum of the per-copy lines,
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with quantity tiers where a supplier's price steps (jacket print runs).
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All rates come from **one versioned price list** in the factory
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application, and every offer records the version it used, so any old
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offer can be reproduced to the baht. That follows the append-only rule
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the factory application already applies to everything else.
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Transparency rules, so the word means something:
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- every line visible, no fees that appear later;
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- pass-through costs (the jacket) shown at what the partner charges plus
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a stated handling margin;
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- quoted in THB for Thai customers and in USD for export customers, the
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currency choice the [revenue model](finance/revenue-model.md) already
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recommends deciding early.
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### Side length per format
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The audio check compares each side with the format's limit. Until the
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cutting engineer sets CNX's own figures, the demos use these (October
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2026):
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| Format | Comfortable | At most | Songs a side, at most |
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| 12", 33⅓ rpm | 18 min | 22 min | ~4.9 |
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| 12", 45 rpm | 12 min | 15 min | ~3.3 |
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| 10", 33⅓ rpm | 12 min | 15 min | ~3.3 |
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| 10", 45 rpm | 8 min | 12 min | ~2.6 |
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| 7", 33⅓ rpm | 5 min | 7 min | ~1.5 |
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| 7", 45 rpm | 4.5 min | 5 min | ~1.1 |
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**At most** and **songs** are the table the team supplied in October
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2026, from recordplayerexpert.com ("How much can a vinyl record hold",
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https://recordplayerexpert.com/vinyl-record-capacity, checked October
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2026), which counts songs at an average length of 4:32. **Comfortable**
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is the lower end of each range in the microcut.studio format guide
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(https://microcut.studio/guides/vinyl-format-guide-12-10-7/).
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The published cutting-room figures disagree with the at-most column in
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three places, so treat those as re-check points for the cutting engineer:
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10" at 33⅓ rpm (15 min here; microcut.studio up to 16, Diggers Factory
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17), 10" at 45 rpm (12 min here; microcut.studio 11, Diggers Factory 10,
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so this table is the most generous) and 7" at 45 rpm (5 min here, as
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Diggers Factory; microcut.studio 6). Diggers Factory lists hard maxima of
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22, 12, 17, 10, 6 and 5 minutes for the six formats (stricter on 12" at
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45 rpm), and A to Z Media 14 to 18 minutes as ideal on a 12" LP. Loud or bass-heavy music needs
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shorter sides: Diggers Factory's dance-music figures are about 60 % of its
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standard ones (11:27 against 19:23 on a 12" LP), which the demo applies as
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a factor of 0.6. The engineer check, not this table, decides whether a
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side is cuttable.
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### What it looks like with numbers
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An illustration of the **shape**, using the midpoints of the working
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assumptions in the revenue model: **38,000 THB per title** (mastering,
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cutting, stampers, test pressings; range 19,000 to 57,000), **132 THB per
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copy** for pressing, labels, inner sleeve and assembly (range 115 to 150),
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plus **~100 THB per copy for a printed jacket and shrink** at short run
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(estimate, until the packaging partner quotes). Black 12", 140 g:
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| Copies | Per-title share per copy | Per copy | Per copy, all in | Order total |
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| 100 | 380 | 232 | **~612 THB** | ~61,200 THB |
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| 200 | 190 | 232 | **~422 THB** | ~84,400 THB |
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| 300 | 127 | 232 | **~359 THB** | ~107,600 THB |
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| 500 | 76 | 232 | **~308 THB** | ~154,000 THB |
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| 1,000 | 38 | 232 | **~270 THB** | ~270,000 THB |
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**Do not read the level off this table.** At these Western-benchmark
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rates the 300-copy price lands near 360 THB, while the Thai market pays
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650 to 950 THB for 300 today. That is the very gap the revenue model
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flags as its biggest open question. The real price list is set after
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market validation ([roadmap](roadmap.md) item 1); the calculator only
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makes whatever prices are chosen legible.
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## Fan-funded campaigns
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### Before the campaign goes live
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Nothing goes in front of fans that the plant cannot make:
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1. **Upload**: master files (WAV/FLAC/AIFF) with checksums at both ends,
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resumable for album-size uploads, straight into the encrypted client
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vault (module 2 of the factory application).
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2. **Automatic audio checks**, reported to the artist within minutes:
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format, sample rate and bit depth, clipping and true peak, **side
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length against the chosen format**, and low-frequency phase problems
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that make a groove hard to cut.
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3. **Automatic artwork preflight**: label and jacket files against the
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templates (size, centre hole and safe area for the pressed-in label,
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bleed, resolution, colour space), with a rendered mock-up of the
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jacket and the vinyl colour.
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4. **Engineer check**: a cutting engineer confirms side length and level
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are cuttable. On a Sillitoe lathe this is a number from the software's
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virtual groove (disk capacity in percent) without a test cut; see
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[vendor landscape](suppliers/vendor-landscape.md).
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5. **Rights**: the artist confirms they own or have licensed the
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recordings and the compositions (covers need a mechanical licence),
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and an automatic audio fingerprint check (open tools such as
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Chromaprint/AcoustID) catches obvious bootlegs before a person looks.
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6. **Gate 1, master plan approved**, recorded as the event the
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[process flow](process-flow.md) already defines, plus the approved
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artwork proof that packaging QC later checks print against.
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### The campaign page
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- Artwork mock-up, story, track list, **short audio previews** (a few
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seconds to a minute per track at reduced quality, rendered by the plant
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from the master; the full master never leaves the vault, which matters
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because pre-release audio is a leak target per
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[facility security](facility-security.md))
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- Price per copy, shipping by destination, goal, progress, deadline,
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**estimated ship month** (campaign close plus the quoted lead time),
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and what happens if the goal is missed
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- Sharing built for where the fans are: a link, a QR code for gigs and
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merch tables, and **LINE** alongside the international networks; Thai
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and English
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- Duration chosen by the artist, **14 to 45 days** (estimate)
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### The goal
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The artist sets only the fan price; the goal, the number of fans
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needed, follows from it (decided October 2026). It is the larger of two
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numbers:
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- **the plant's minimum campaign run**, set by setup and stamper
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economics on the semi-automatic line (**100 copies** as a planning
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figure, to be decided), and
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- **the artist's break-even**: the copies at which the fan price covers
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the per-title costs, the per-copy costs and the payment fees.
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Both demos show it in fans and as the pre-order amount (fans × fan
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price); the investor demo also says from which fan price the 100-copy
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minimum is enough (about 640 THB in the illustration; below it the
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break-even sets the goal).
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With the illustration above and a fan price of 1,200 THB (an example,
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not a recommendation) and payment fees of about 3.5%: break-even is
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38,000 / (1,200 − 42 − 232) ≈ **41 copies**, so the goal is the 100-copy
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minimum. At 100 copies the artist keeps about **546 THB a copy**, at 300
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about **799 THB**, because the per-title cost spreads. The calculator
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shows the artist this before launch, for any price they type in. Shipping
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is charged to the fan separately at checkout, at cost.
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VAT is not in this example. With CNX as seller of record (open decision
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1), a 1,200 THB fan price includes about 79 THB of VAT (7/107), which
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comes out of the artist's margin; the demo can show the numbers with and
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without it.
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Over-subscription is good news: the run is pressed at the final number
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plus the artist's own copies and the spares the reject allowance already
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covers. An artist can cap a campaign for a limited, numbered edition.
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### Payments
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The decision that matters most, and the one Qrates got wrong.
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| | A. Charge at pledge, refund on failure | B. Save card, charge at success |
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| How | Fan pays when pledging; money held in a ring-fenced account; automatic refund if the goal is missed | Card stored by the payment provider; charged only when the campaign succeeds |
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| Thai fit | Works with **PromptPay QR**, cards and wallets, which is how Thai fans pay | Cards only; excludes PromptPay |
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| Risk | CNX holds fan money for the campaign's length: must be ring-fenced and legally clean | Some charges fail at the end, so a campaign that "succeeded" can come up short |
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| Note | Refund paths differ by payment method; confirm each with the provider | A card authorisation cannot simply be held: Opn (Omise) allows an authorise-and-capture pause of up to 7 days, far short of a campaign |
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**Recommended: A**, with three rules. Fan money sits in a **separate
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account** and is never used for operations until the campaign succeeds.
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**CNX is the seller of record** to the fan (CNX makes and sells the
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record, the artist licenses the music and receives the margin), which
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keeps VAT, consumer protection and refunds in one place. And before the
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first campaign, **a Thai legal opinion** on whether holding pre-order
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money for a third party's project needs anything beyond that, for
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example under the Bank of Thailand's payment-service rules. Card data
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never touches CNX servers: the provider's hosted payment page or fields
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keep it out of scope.
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### When the campaign succeeds
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The campaign becomes a production order and runs the normal chain:
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vinyl mastering if ordered and **gate 2** (master approved by the
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artist), cutting (only now, because a lacquer has to be plated within
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one to three days), stampers, test pressings and **gate 3** (artist
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approves the test pressing; a photo or short video of it to the fans is
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cheap marketing), the run, packaging, and **dropshipping one parcel per
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fan** with tracking, which is fulfillment step 9 as already planned.
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Fans follow it on the campaign page, fed from the factory application's
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event log: the progress is the plant's own record, not a status someone
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remembers to update. If a stage slips, the estimated ship month moves
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and every fan is told.
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An optional **"test pressing first"** campaign does mastering, cutting and
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test pressings before launch, so fans hear and see the real record. The
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artist pays the per-title services up front for it; it suits artists
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with an audience but no track record.
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### When it does not succeed
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Automatic refunds to every fan, or, if the artist chooses, the artist
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pays the shortfall and the run goes ahead at the minimum (the Diggers
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Factory option). The artist's uploaded master and artwork stay in the
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vault for a second attempt.
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### After the first run: repress on demand
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Once a title exists, its mother sits in the archive and a repress takes
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**1.5 to 2.5 weeks** of plant time
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([production timeline](production-timeline.md)). The campaign page can
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reopen as "pre-order the repress, pressed when 100 more are in", which
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turns one release into a recurring one. This is the part a plant with
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in-house plating can offer and a broker cannot.
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## For labels and regular customers
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The same calculator and upload path, with an account:
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- negotiated rates as a customer-specific price-list version;
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- direct orders with a deposit instead of a campaign;
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- the three gates approved in the customer portal
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([digital factory](digital-factory.md), modules 1 to 3 and 10);
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- bulk delivery, dropshipping, or both.
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## How it is built
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Same stack and same rules as the factory application in
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[digital factory](digital-factory.md): Rust (axum, SQLx, minijinja,
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HTMX) on PostgreSQL, in the `cnx-factory` repository, packaged as a
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flake, deployed by the clan. The platform extends modules 1 (orders and
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releases), 2 (audio intake and the client vault), 3 (the gates) and 10
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(customer portal) with a price list and calculator, campaigns, pledges,
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payments and per-fan shipments.
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**Where the public side runs.** The digital factory plan accepts that a
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WAN outage at the plant stops the customer portal. That is acceptable for
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a label checking an order, not for a campaign page in the hour an artist
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posts it, or for payment-provider webhooks. Proposal:
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- the **public process** (calculator, campaign pages, checkout, payment
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webhooks, upload staging) runs on a fleet machine with a public
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address, `web01` or a sibling declared in the clan the same way, with
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its own small PostgreSQL for campaigns and pledges;
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- the **plant core stays the authority** for everything with a
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production identity: when a campaign succeeds it becomes an order on
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`vinyl-core`, and from then on the fan-facing progress is read through
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the plant, as the portal is. Design decision 7 ("the portal is a view,
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not a copy") still holds for production data; campaigns and pledges are
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new data that start life in public;
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- **uploads** land encrypted in a staging area on the public machine, are
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pulled over the mesh into the client vault, checksum-verified on both
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sides, and deleted from staging; **previews** are rendered on the plant
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and published outwards, so a full master never rests outside the
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vault.
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No SaaS beyond the payment provider (Opn/Omise, 2C2P or a bank gateway,
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to be chosen), in line with the plan's standing rule that every plant
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service runs on the NixOS fleet.
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**Personal data.** Fans' names and addresses are personal data under
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PDPA, with CNX as controller as the seller of record. An artist gets
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fan contact details only where the fan ticked a consent box; that list
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is worth a lot to an artist, and consent is what makes it legal to hand
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over.
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## The calculator is also a research instrument
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Every configuration anyone builds, anonymously logged, is a data point on
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what people actually want to order: run size, colour, weight, packaging,
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how many walk away at which price. The revenue model's open **run-size**
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question ([roadmap](roadmap.md) item 1) is exactly that distribution. So
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the calculator should go public **long before the plant exists**, with
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indicative prices and a "tell me when it opens" list, and no payments.
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## Phasing
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| Roadmap phase | Platform step |
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|---|---|
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| 0 to 1, validate | Public calculator with indicative prices and an interest list; configuration logging feeds market validation |
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| 3, build | Direct orders, uploads, automatic checks and gates, as part of factory application v1 |
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| 4, launch | Campaigns go live **after** the first paying releases have shipped and lead times have been measured. No fan money is taken against a plant that has not yet delivered |
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| 5, expand | Repress pre-orders, numbered editions, international shipping at scale, cassette and CD formats from the business plan's scope |
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## Rough cost (estimate)
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| Item | THB | USD |
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|---|---|---|
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| Public side on top of the factory application: calculator, campaigns, payments, uploads and previews, preflight, fan accounts | 1.3M – 3.0M | 40k – 90k |
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| Hosting | on the existing fleet | negligible |
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| Payment fees | per transaction, inside the fan price | about 3 to 4% on cards, less on PromptPay (to be confirmed with the provider) |
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Not yet in the roll-up in
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[total investment](finance/total-investment.md); listed there as added
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scope.
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## Risks
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- **Most crowdfunding campaigns fail**, and each failed one still costs
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CNX checking and setup time. A small non-refundable setup fee, credited
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against the order if the campaign succeeds, is one answer; decide it
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before launch.
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- **Lumpy demand.** Campaigns end on dates nobody controls. The scheduler
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in the factory application should see live campaigns, weighted by how
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close they are to their goal, and cap how many can close in the same
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week.
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- **Fans are not labels.** They expect a perfect record and a date.
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Clear wording on what vinyl sounds like, the artist's test-pressing
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approval, and honest ship months carry most of this.
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- **Rights.** Someone will upload music that is not theirs. Warranty,
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fingerprint check, a human look, and a takedown route.
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- **Money.** Covered by the payment rules above; the legal opinion comes
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before the first campaign, not after.
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## Open decisions
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1. **Seller of record**: CNX (recommended) or the artist.
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2. **Payment model**: charge-and-refund into a ring-fenced account
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(recommended) or save-card-and-charge; legal opinion either way.
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3. **Fee model**: margin inside the published price list only
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(recommended, it is what "transparent" means) or a separate platform
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commission.
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4. **Minimum campaign run**: 100 copies as the planning figure.
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5. **Public price list**: fully public rates, or public list prices with
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account-specific rates for labels.
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6. **Hosting split**: public process on a fleet machine as proposed, or
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everything on the plant core at launch volumes.
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7. **Name**: under CNX Vinyl, Poy Records, or its own brand.
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