Sibert follow-up: USD 250k budget, current VS specs, OMS as galvanics option
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Ian Locke's email of 5 October 2026 after Making Vinyl Europe: - Budget of USD 250k for VSP, VSF and VSC confirmed; his time, spares, shipping and travel extra; itemised quotation on request. The total-investment block keeps its estimate until the re-base, the difference (+190k low case / +80k high case) goes into the not-yet-rolled-up table. - Current specifications filed (VSF and VSC 2022, VSP 2023) plus the VSF/VSP/VSC line-up drawing (4958 x 833 mm); the 2021 issues move to sibert/specs-2021/. VSC is now 1000 kg with split OD hydraulic / ID pneumatic forming; VSF 0-30 psi, 4-station head. Crane table, supplier map, vendor landscape and the plant page details updated. - Fully automatic VSPa exists; Sibert offers to move features to the VSP. - Electroforming: OMS (Optical Media Services, Lou Wullms) named next to Pheenix; added as a third galvanics candidate with open questions. - Sequencing advice (presses, boilers, operators and live feedback loops first) recorded in the exhibitor briefing, roadmap item 23, and as digital-factory design decision 9 (operators see the data first).
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Sources are vendor datasheets filed with the Making Vinyl Europe 2026
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material in October 2026: Pheenix Alpha's electroforming range (four flyers
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dated September 2024, in [`pheenix-alpha/`](pheenix-alpha/)) and Sibert's
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vinyl stamper prep line (technical specifications dated April 2021, in
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[`sibert/`](sibert/)), plus Sibert's 2008 to 2009 optical-disc literature
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(below). Every figure here is vendor-published, not quoted, and no document
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carries a price. Digital Matrix / Plating Power stays the comparison; its
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datasheets are not in the repo yet (see the
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vinyl stamper prep line (the current technical specifications and a
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line-up drawing, sent by Sibert's Ian Locke on 5 October 2026, in
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[`sibert/`](sibert/); the April 2021 issues they replace are in
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[`sibert/specs-2021/`](sibert/specs-2021/)), plus Sibert's 2008 to 2009
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optical-disc literature (below). Every figure here is vendor-published, not
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quoted; the only price is Sibert's budget confirmation by email (below).
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Digital Matrix / Plating Power stays the comparison; its datasheets are not
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in the repo yet (see the
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[vendor landscape](../suppliers/vendor-landscape.md)).
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## Electroforming: the Pheenix Alpha range
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no vendor cloud. The maintenance alerts are the bath events the
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galvanics record in [traceability](../traceability.md) needs anyway.
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### A third candidate: Optical Media Services (OMS)
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Asked after the show which electroforming route he would take, Sibert's
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Ian Locke named two (email, 5 October 2026): **OMS through Lou Wullms**, "a
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long-standing industry colleague who makes good equipment" and very
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familiar with the Asian market, or **Pheenix** for a full turnkey package
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with long international experience, electroforming systems and presses
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together (he calls Pheenix the de facto standard for vinyl presses
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worldwide; his view, not a market figure).
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OMS is Optical Media Services B.V. in Baarlo, Netherlands, established
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1996 (vinyl-pressing-plants.com directory and Lou Wullms' own profile): an
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independent vinyl stamper service from lacquers and DMMs that also builds
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and refurbishes vinyl electroforming equipment, including conversions of
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CD/DVD electroforming lines to 14" vinyl. The same directory gives
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Newbilt's equipment page as OMS's website, and that page announces new
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Newbilt electroplating equipment with the portfolio "presented here soon";
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whether OMS builds it is not confirmed, so ask both. No OMS datasheet or
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price is on file.
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What it adds: a third galvanics vendor next to Digital Matrix and Pheenix,
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named by a supplier who knows Lou Wullms and has installed equipment at
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Pheenix; a stamper service that could
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also serve as a European bridge supplier next to Stamper Discs; and, if
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the Newbilt link holds, a galvanics route that pairs with the Newbilt
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presses the way the Pheenix range pairs with the AD12.
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### Cycle times and cell count
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Pheenix publishes no cycle times. Published practice from other plating
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## Stamper prep: the Sibert VS line
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Sibert's three vinyl machines, from the 2021 technical specifications:
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Sibert's three vinyl machines, from the current technical specifications
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(VSF and VSC dated May 2022, VSP June 2023, by their file dates), sent by
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Ian Locke on 5 October 2026 together with a line-up drawing of the three
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(July 2023):
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| Machine | What it does | Specification figures |
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| **VSP** Vinyl Stamper Punch | Punches the centre hole after optical centring on the groove | Punch and die M2 high-speed steel, Ø25.4 mm standard (other sizes available), ±0.002 mm; turntable Ø360 mm, 6 mm centring travel, ±0.0015 mm rotational accuracy; pneumatic automatic pre-centring, then manual fine centring; optics ×100, graticule 15 divisions at 0.10 mm, viewing diameter Ø90 to 110 mm (centres on the lead-out groove); pneumatic punch cylinder 100 mm bore, 50 mm stroke; 115 to 230 VAC single-phase, 250 VA; air 6 to 8 bar, 4.5 L/s during the punch stroke; 200 kg; spare punch and die on request |
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| **VSF** Vinyl Stamper Finisher | Automatic wet back-finishing with automatic stamper cleaning | Turntable Ø365 mm, vacuum plus mechanical quick-release clamping on moulded rubber mats, 150 to 1500 rpm; head pressure 0 to 50 psi, 150 to 1500 rpm, motorised traverse; 5-station quick-change disc head including a cleaning pad; abrasive grades P120 to P2500 (nine grades); closed water loop, 0.6 µm absolute or 5 µm nominal filtration plus a 10 µm bag in the tank; 115 to 230 VAC single-phase, 1200 VA; air 6 to 8 bar, 3.1 L/s; 250 kg |
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| **VSC** Vinyl Stamper Coiner | Forms the centre and the edge and sizes the outer diameter in one hydraulic operation, so no trimming | Modular die sets for 7", 10" and 12" with automatic loading, three tool stations in the machine; "quick change tooling to suit all vinyl moulds"; M2 forming tools; locates on a removable ID spigot with two height settings; hydraulic with safety interlocks; 115 to 230 VAC single-phase, 1 kVA; air 6 to 8 bar, 4.5 L/s during forming; 600 kg |
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| **VSF** Vinyl Stamper Finisher | Automatic wet back-finishing with automatic stamper cleaning | Turntable up to Ø362 mm, sized to the customer's stamper, vacuum plus mechanical quick-release clamping on moulded rubber mats, 150 to 1500 rpm; head pressure 0 to 30 psi, brushless DC head drive and traverse, 150 to 1500 rpm; 4-station quick-change disc head including a cleaning pad; abrasive grades P120 to P2500 (nine grades); closed water loop, 0.6 µm absolute or 5 µm nominal filtration plus a 10 µm bag in the tank; 115 to 230 VAC single-phase, 1200 VA; air 6 to 8 bar, 3.1 L/s; 250 kg |
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| **VSC** Vinyl Stamper Coiner | Fully automatic forming of the centre hole (ID) and the edge (OD), with the outer diameter punched to a preset size, so no trimming | Press of 40 mm structural steel plate and pillar box section on four hardened pillars and eight linear ball races; independent twin hydraulic OD forming and adjustable pneumatic ID forming; automatically interchangeable 7", 10" and 12" tooling carriages, up to three stations in the machine, loaded by ball rollers and a brushless DC lead screw; D2 and M2 high-speed steel tools, vacuum hardened three times, tempered and precision ground; removable precision-ground ID spigot with height and pressure adjustment; OD insert made to the customer's mould profile ("quick change tooling to suit all vinyl moulds"); 115 to 230 VAC single-phase, 1 kVA; air 6 to 8 bar, 4.5 L/s during forming; 1000 kg; about 2.0 × 0.8 × 1.6 m (width with the tool carriages × depth × height, from the sheet's render) |
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All three are aluminium frames on castors with levelling feet, guarded by
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5 mm cast acrylic, and ship with a pressure regulator and filter.
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All three have aluminium frames and 5 mm cast acrylic guarding and ship
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with a pressure regulator and filter. The VSP and VSF sheets list castors
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and levelling feet; the current VSC sheet does not.
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Against the 2021 sheets, the VSC is a heavier machine (1000 kg, was 600;
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40 mm plate, four pillars and eight ball races) with forming split into
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hydraulic OD and pneumatic ID; the VSF turntable is now sized to the
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stamper (up to 362 mm, was 365), its head pressure range is 0 to 30 psi
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(was 0 to 50), its drives are brushless and its disc head has four stations
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(was five); the VSP sheet changed only a typo.
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What this changes in the plan:
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- **Budget: USD 250k for all three.** Sibert confirmed by email (5 October
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2026) that a budget of USD 250k covers "all 3 auto-machines"; Ian
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Locke's own time, spare parts, shipping and travel come on top. This is a
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budget confirmation, not a quote: Sibert offers a fully itemised
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quotation once we go ahead. It sits above the 60k to 170k estimate in
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[total investment](../finance/total-investment.md), which carries the
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difference in its not-yet-rolled-up table until the next re-base.
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- **Single-phase power.** All three run on 115 to 230 VAC, 50/60 Hz, ~2.5
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kVA together, so the three-phase question from the
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[Haarlem briefing](../suppliers/making-vinyl-europe-2026-exhibitors.md)
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falls away. Each needs 6 to 8 bar compressed air at ½" BSP minimum, so
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the air network has to reach the stamper prep room.
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- **Weights 200, 250 and 600 kg**, on castors: pallet-truck moves, not
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crane lifts ([crane table](../crane-workshop-tours.md) updated).
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- **Weights 200, 250 and 1000 kg.** The VSP and VSF stand on castors:
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pallet-truck moves. The VSC weighs a tonne and its sheet lists no
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castors, so it is a crane or forklift lift; stamper prep is under the
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crane runway ([crane table](../crane-workshop-tours.md) updated).
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- **Line-up: 4958 × 833 mm.** Sibert's drawing sets the machines in a row,
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VSF, VSP, VSC, 500 mm apart: 4.96 m long overall and 0.83 m deep. With an
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operator aisle in front and access at the ends, the line needs a strip of
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roughly 6 × 2.5 m (estimate) in the stamper prep room, before stamper
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racks and the inspection bench.
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- **Order of operations: finish, punch, coin.** Gotta Groove's
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Electromastering Lab in Cleveland, which runs a Sibert VSF and VSP,
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back-sands first, then centres and punches on the VSP, then trims and
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coins the edge and forms the centre hole for the press type
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(recordplating.com). The VSC locates on the punched hole, which fits the
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same order. The [process flow](../process-flow.md)'s "punch, back-finish,
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coin" names the operations, not their sequence.
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same order, and Sibert's line-up drawing places the machines in it. The
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[process flow](../process-flow.md)'s "punch, back-finish, coin" names
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the operations, not their sequence.
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- **Centring is manual.** The VSP pre-centres pneumatically, then the
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operator centres the lead-out groove under ×100 optics against the
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graticule. Concentricity depends on the operator, so the stage 5 check
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stays, and it is the measurement most worth automating. Sibert's 2009
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optical-disc punch offered automatic centring with a measured centring
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value, a barcode reader for the stamper card and a LAN connection as
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options; the VS sheets list none of these. Ask whether the VS line takes
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them: the answer decides whether stamper prep stays a manual check-in
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station in the [digital factory](../digital-factory.md).
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options; the VS sheets list none of these. Sibert also builds a fully
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automatic punch, the **VSPa**; Ian Locke thinks it may not be right for
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this application and offered to discuss it, or to carry some of its
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features across to the VSP as a special exception. Which features
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(automatic centring, a measured centring value written out against a
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stamper serial) is the question to settle before the quotation: the
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answer decides whether stamper prep stays a manual check-in station in
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the [digital factory](../digital-factory.md).
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- **Mould fit.** The standard punch is Ø25.4 mm, other sizes on request,
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and the VSC claims tooling for every vinyl mould. Gotta Groove keeps nine
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and the VSC makes its OD insert to each customer mould profile, with
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interchangeable ID spigots. Gotta Groove keeps nine
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centre-hole forming tools to fit the presses its customers run, which
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shows the scale of the question. Which centre hole and
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edge form each mould needs (Newbilt book mould, Pheenix/Toolex, M-Tech)
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on request) and a UK freight leg per service. In 2009 Sibert also had a
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Singapore branch; ask whether regional service still exists. The
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certificate's fields are a ready list for the stamper prep record in
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[traceability](../traceability.md).
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[traceability](../traceability.md). Installation and training are not in
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the budget: Ian Locke's time and travel are charged on top, so they are
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a quote line of their own.
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## Optical-disc reference material
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thickness; PLC protocol and tag list; DI water quality; which
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water-treatment partner its customers use; reference plants running the
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range.
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- **Sibert**: prices and lead time for VSP, VSF and VSC; tooling sets per
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mould type and their cost; automatic centring, barcode and network
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options on the VS line; punch-and-die service from Thailand (UK works or
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a regional partner); the roughness the VSF reaches; what it installed at
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Pheenix in January 2025, and whether Pheenix sells Sibert machines with
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its line.
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- **Sibert**: the itemised quotation against the confirmed USD 250k
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budget, with Ian Locke's time, spare parts, shipping and travel priced,
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and lead time; tooling sets per mould type and their cost; which VSPa
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features can move to the VSP (automatic centring, a measured centring
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value, barcode and network); punch-and-die service from Thailand (UK
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works or a regional partner); the roughness the VSF reaches; crated
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sizes and weights (the VSC is now 1 t); what it installed at Pheenix in
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January 2025, and whether Pheenix sells Sibert machines with its line.
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- **OMS (Optical Media Services)**: equipment range and datasheets, a
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budget for one line next to Pheenix and Digital Matrix, installations and
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service in Asia, stamper service prices and turnaround, and whether it
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builds the electroplating equipment Newbilt announces.
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- **Press vendors** (Newbilt, Pheenix, M-Tech): the stamper centre hole and
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edge form each mould expects, so the punch size and coiner tooling can be
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ordered to match ([pressing line](pressing-line.md)).
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(September 2024; renamed from their download names). The flyers give
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Pheenix Alpha AB's address as Skepptuna, Märsta, Sweden;
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info@pheenixalpha.com, helpdesk@pheenixalpha.com.
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- [`sibert/`](sibert/): VSP, VSF and VSC technical specifications (April
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2021). Sibert Instruments Ltd, Alton, Hampshire, UK;
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sales@sibert.co.uk.
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- [`sibert/`](sibert/): VSF and VSC technical specifications (May 2022),
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VSP technical specification (June 2023) and the VSF/VSP/VSC line-up
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drawing (July 2023), attached to Ian Locke's email of 5 October 2026;
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the April 2021 issues they replace are in
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[`sibert/specs-2021/`](sibert/specs-2021/). Sibert Instruments Ltd,
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Medstead, Hampshire, UK, by the email signature (the specification
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sheets still carry the older Alton address); sales@sibert.co.uk,
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ian.locke@sibert.co.uk.
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- [`sibert/sps-optical-disc-2009/`](sibert/sps-optical-disc-2009/): SPS
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punching and finishing literature (2008 to 2009), the punch-and-die
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return form, and the Blu-ray stamper characteristics paper (2008).
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